A message board I belong to, has a membership of several writers that post on Leslita and several other popular sites.
Luna Zax, a writer I happen to love and respect, posted a message, complaining about male writers that are basically clueless about the inner workings of girl-girl sexuality.
Here is her post:
I always wonder if what I find erotic matches that of other women... other lesbians... or other female readers of lesbian erotic stories.
Because I read some things, and I just don't get the "rave responses" to their stories. To me.... much of what is out there is bad writing or a male interpretation of female to female love and lovemaking.
Here's some of my pet peeves with this stuff:
* Any erotic story where the female character immediately (either as a thought or when speaking) uses the word cunt, I am turned off. The word is a fine fun word, but it should not be used casually. I only use cunt when having sexy dirty talk with a partner. In my head I don't refer to my sexual organs as my cunt, nor do I say to my friends, "I need someone to lick my cunt tonight."
* Any erotic story where a girl mentions her bra size when describing herself. (I'm about 5'6, red hair, green eyes, I'm really thin, and I have 36D tits!) I mean, when have you ever read a personal ad from a guy, where he says "I'm about 5'10", 155 lbs, and I wear size 34 boxer shorts". I'm sorry, but I don't define myself or describe myself using my bra size. It's a cute fun fact that can be spoken among friends and flirting partners, but not something that is just causally dropped in conversation.
And it's also funny that every girl is 32, 34, or 36 and has a C cup or greater, but never larger than DD. Or even better when a girl is really skinny at 115 lbs, but still has 36DD breasts.
* Automatic lesbians... As much as we wish it... As much as the world has changed... And as much as there are more sexually curious girls than ever before, every girl is not a lesbian, every girl is not curious, and every girl does not have a secret girl-crush/fantasy based on the truth or dare game they played during a slumber party last year.
These fantasies can still be fun, but if you use cliches they need to be well written..
* Seduction is almost more sexy than the action after the seduction... Flirting is fun... the not knowing whether someone is into you or not.... the hesitation or awkwardness of a first kiss with someone new... This is fun and exciting, don't rush past it to get to the good stuff.
* Anal Sex and Fetishes should never be introduced lightly. We all have fantasies, and we can act them out in stories and roleplays and the like. But it should never just be thrown in without any thought or planning. Discussion is always important. Lubrication is always important. Planning and purchasing is always important and can be very much fun.
That's all for now, I think....
Cheers, Luna
Here is my response:
Luna darling -
Thank you for putting this into words, I have often thought several of these things myself, and I agree on several points.
HOWEVER...
I am not afraid of, nor do I avoid the word cunt. I have a very "expressive" vocabulary and never shy from using foul language in the right setting. I do indeed say to my friends, sometimes in public, "I need someone to lick my cunt tonight."
In fact, I have a problem with adult women who are so repressed they still refer to their vagina as "down there". I mean c'mon girls... say it with me now: CUNT. There... was that so hard? (((giggle)))
Also, I do include characters bra sizes in my stories because I know that the majority of my readers are MEN that are primarily ruled and driven by their libido's. I am not talking about casual conversation, I am talking about erotica (or in my case, stroke stories) and I have a desire to be a popular read.
As I said, my readers are primarily men, and they need to be filled with references and visual imagery, so I do include details like that. Although, I have not written anything new in like 9 months, I continue to check stats on my old stories, and it's nice to know that I still get many hits at Leslita and Kristen's and SOL.
Erotica is fantasy tinged with realism in my opinion, and I do like to keep it as close to real as I can. However, I also like to make it hot and nasty for the poor guys that dream of having a teen girl (or 2 or 3) engage in the type of sex he will never see or have in real life!
I am not trying to start an argument or appear contrary, but I felt that I needed to express my views on the subject as well.
XOXO & respect,
~Gia
If ya'll don't know Luna's work, here's a link to her blog:
THIS IS LUNA ZAX
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- I am a 31 year old lesbian, living in "Porn Valley" in Los Angeles, Calif. I started writing erotica as an outlet for my sometimes psychotic sexual frustrations. Most of my stories revolve around "young girls" discovering their sexuality. I usually feature girls that have an oversized clitoris and ejaculate when they cum. My best works are girl-girl themes. I sometimes draw from real life experiences in my stories. I love girls of all races and the younger, the better! There's nothing like having a "barely legal" 18 year old girl sitting on my face smothering me into near suffocation. I'm a rocker chick at heart and I love most kinds of music, but mostly stuff my dad turned me onto as a kid. From 80's hair bands like Motley Crue to current cookie monster bands like Opeth to 70’s Gods Led Zep and Pink Floyd… go see my list. I suppose I should discuss my special talent with you all. I am a "squirter". The technical term is female ejaculation. When I have an orgasm, I ejaculate (sounds fuckin hott, doesn't it?) and cum squirts out of my pussy. I love to cum and I love to make men and women cum with my stories. Kisses and squirts, ~Gia1978
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6 comments:
Verrrrry interesting, yum. However, seems everybody evidently is concerned mostly with what readers think and want to hear, and not what turns them on to write about?
True, certain terms may be a turn off for some, but if you read each story from the viewpoint of what is she or he feeling while he/she is writing this, sometimes it doesn't really matter so much what words they use? Sometimes the ones I read are written like people are trying to write the great American novel, and not what they are feeling so strongly about that they just have to type it out or go bananas if they don't.
It's true that some stories you and I and others write are at the request of some individuals, and those are supposed to be geared to their fantasies, so terms and story line have to accomplish a goal.
One funny thing I have noticed in emails from some guys lately is they are writing to tell me that they like my stories more since I stopped using 'cunt', which my g/f s and I have used for years after we outgrew 'cunny' growing up. That really surprises me!
But when I am typing in a blur,( well as much as my little fingers can make a blur, lol,) 'cunt' just comes out naturally since that is the way we all talk.
Well, guess that's about it. In closing, (finally,you say?) giggle, In a way I , too, like to have people like my stuff just like you said, but it isn't as important as the fact it turns me on to do it.
I just reread what I've said. Does any of this make any sense at all or am I just rambling as usual, yummy bear?
Love uuu, ummmwhaaa, smack!
moi.
anonymous sounds like a yummy girl whose handle sounds like double letters and a number. If so, one of the things I like best about her writing is her use of the word cunt. Face it, cunt is a pretty, sexy word for a pretty, sexy part of a girl's body.
Cunt's fine, just.. Not every other word- It gets really annoying.
As for bra sizes... Well, to be honest I HATE stories that start out with 'I'm a __ year old female with ___ hair and ___ eyes. I have 36DDs, and...' Just totaly turns me off. I find stories a lot more interesting when they stick hints in, like 'her ___ hair was blah blah blah', not 'I have ___ hair.'
I'm a guy and I wholeheartedly agree with the comments about bra sizes and the physical attributes (is she exactly 5 - 9?).
With me it's always been about the seduction (usually a mutual action) and the connection. I sometimes see stories ostensibly written by women that use the same format and I think it's either a male saying he's a female or it's a sellout by a woman.
The cunt is, in my opinion, the most powerful organ in the human body. The textures, the scent, the ability to lubricate and adapt to virtually any size of penis, the ability to ejaculate much more powerfully than any male ejaculation make it without question the dominant organ. The stem cell researchers should be looking for cunt stem cells - we'll never die.
'Cunt' is one of those words that should be held back for particular instances of extreme intimacy/emotion IMO. That said, I have met RL people who use the word with abandon (even as a verb).
The whole bra size thing is hysterical - why does a writer think the reader requires such a specific bit of detail? Just say small, medium or large - our imaginations can do the rest!
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